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Interview with Lily Bogle

Bogle, Lily
Camera Operator
Thomas, Jo
Date of Interview: 
Childhood adventures; Overcoming obstacles; Cultural identification
Lily Bogle talks about learning English and helping her daughters by taking them to the library.
Honduras; Charlotte, NC, 1973-1999
Charlotte Narrative and Conversation Collection
Collection Description: 
Jo Thomas interviewed current Charlotte, NC residents to collect various stories for a class project at UNC Charlotte.
JT (Jo Thomas): This is Lily Bogle. She is from Honduras. When did you come to the States, Lily?
LB (Lily Bogle): I came in '92.
JT: In 1992?
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: And how old were you when you learned to read? Do you remember?
LB: Um. [Pause] I was five years old.
JT: Were you already in Honduras?
LB: Yeah. Yeah.
JT: Is that the normal age to start school in Honduras? Five years old?
LB: No, no. Its seven years is the normal age, but I wanted to.
JT: So that was OK?
LB: Yeah. It was fine, but now, uh, kids can go to school at five. When I say school, I'm talking about first grade.
JT: Uh-huh. So you started first grade at age five?
LB: Right.
JT: OK. And you learned how to read. What kind of books did you like to read when you were little?
LB: Um, we didn't have much book, many books, at home, like children's stories. Um, [pause] but I remember that my Mom used to read to us, uh, her books when she was in school. So we used to read like science books, um, histor, hist, history books.
JT: Like textbooks?
LB: Right. Textbooks.
JT: Did you learn to read those yourself, or did your mother have to read those to you?
LB: She used to read to us.
JT: Uh-huh. Did you have any books to read for yourself?
LB: Well, I just remember one book that we had because my, my sister came to, ah, came to America and they, ah, brought one book. That book was in Spanish, French and English. So, and, that book, I learned to, to, I, I learned to, ah, read, I don't know what to say, to read with English.
JT: Oh. [Pause]
LB: My first words in English.
JT: So your first words you learned to read were English words?
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Did you also learn to read--
LB: No, no, I'm talking about was [pause] I already know, knew, in Spanish.
JT: Oh, I see.
LB: I just--
JT: So it helped you learn the English?
LB: English, yeah.
JT: What was that book about? Do you remember?
LB: It was about the time, like at eight o'clock I, I eat my meal, um, breakfast. At nine o'clock I go to school. Something like that.
JT: Oh, OK. So now, you said your mother read you textbooks?
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Did you have any favorite of those books that your mother would read to you, or did you like--
LB: I think I remember one book that was a book that I borrowed from the school that was in, was, um, it was a reading books. It was a small book. It was about a bunny, that was my favorite story. But I don't remember how the story went.
JT: Oh, Ok. Was anybody in your family a storyteller?
LB: My mom.
JT: Uh-huh.
LB: Yeah. She was good.
JT: Would she make up stories, or did she tell you stories that somebody else had told her when she was little?
LB: Probably not. She, I don't know, I think, I, I, don't remember the my, my dad used to, to, to buy, uh, some like magazines and my Mom used to talk about those, ah, like the stories that were in the book.
JT: Uh-huh. She would tell you the story that she read--
LB: Right.
JT: From the--?
LB: From the--
JT: Do you remember any stories that were kind of passed down in your family? Or maybe in the village where you were? Did they have somebody that would tell stories, and you would go listen to the person?
LB: No, no.
JT: Nothing like that?
LB: No.
JT: So, let's see. This is supposed to be fifteen minutes. [Laughter] That took about two! [Laughter] Oh-oh! Hmmm--. Well, let's just talk about what kind of books now that you read to your children. Do you read to the little girl? She has two girls. One that's four and one that's two. And I see that you have a lot of children's books on the shelf.
LB: Yeah.
JT: And your four-year-old--. [Pause] Can read yet at all?
LB: She's learning.
JT: Is she learning already?
LB: She's learning, yeah, we're so excited about that because she's, um, learning with that, ah, what do you call that? Hooked on Phonics?
JT: Oh.
LB: That gives you that, that feeling of somebody learning.
JT: So, now, how old were your children when you started to read to them?
LB: Ah, just, when they were born.
JT: They were little babies.
LB: Very little. Yeah.
JT: Just hold your baby on your lap. Yeah. Uh-huh.
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Do they have some favorite books that they like for you to read over and over?
LB: Um, well, I, I think Amy likes bible stories. She loves those, those books. And Joy Lynn don't know, she loves everything now. When she was little, she, she used to like, ah, one book, I don't understand, but it's a book about Where's My Mother?
JT: Oh, yeah.
LB: She used to love it.
JT: Are You My Mother?
CO (Camera Operator): That was my favorite book, too.
JT: Would there be a certain time of day, when you were small, that you would read together, or would there be just any time, like before you went to bed?
LB: Any time, not just before bed.
JT: Uh-huh. Probably during the day.
LB: Yeah.
JT: Do you have a special time that you read to your kids now, or just any time?
LB: Um, any time, and, and always before bed we used to read bible stories to them.
JT: Did they have a library in your town?
LB: No, we didn't have one. And we didn't have one at school, either.
JT: No?
LB: So each class used to have, um, their own books. We didn't have much books there.
JT: So, you couldn't go, like, to borrow a book or anything like that?
LB: We, we couldn't take any, ah, like we wanted to read some book, my, I needed to have the permission of my, um, teacher.
JT: Uh-huh.
LB: To, to take a book?
JT: To take a book.
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Would she let you do that?
LB: Ah, when we have some assignment, ah, homework, she used to say, ah, "Now you take the reading book, so you can practice at home."
JT: Uh-huh. So that was a poor place where you lived? Were there not many things?
LB: Um, I would say poor, yeah. About like--
JT: Not like real poor--
LB: Not real poor, but compared to here--
JT: Compared to here--?
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Now do you take your children to the library?
LB: Uh-huh. It's very close to here.
JT: Do they have a special story time with the librarian?
LB: I would think so, but we, I don't know.
JT: So they can choose books?
LB: Yeah.
JT: Do you let them take books out?
LB: Yeah. We go there and we, they choose the books they want. They want them and, and, we do take the books.
JT: Uh-huh. What kind of things do you enjoy reading now? Do you like newspapers, magazines, or just--?
LB: I like, um, I like reading The Bible and I like, I like magazines. Um, the, I don't know how to say-- theological books?
JT: Theology books?
LB: Theology books.
JT: Like philosophy? Or--
LB: Not Philosophy.
JT: Doctrine?
LB: Doctrine. Uh-huh.
JT: OK, books like by Chuck Swindoll or--
LB: Right.
JT: Study--. Some study books?
LB: Uh-huh.
JT: Oh, OK. Well, I can't think of anything else to say. I was hoping you had a story!
LB: Sorry! [Laughter]